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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Mar 6, 2007 10:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD trivia quiz -- only 3 of the first 20 questions unanswered


Trick question.

1966 is unfair, as we have no idea what they might have done in 1965. Theoretically, everything in 1966 is "new." If treated thus, we have at least 30 songs, and 1966 wins. 1969 is out, as they introduced mostly Aoxomoxoa material and all of Workingman's. Less St. Stephen and China Cat--from 1968. 1970 is an excellent candidate, with American Beauty, Workingman's etc, but 1971 has my vote. All the songs from Portchester, the Fall tour (the Europe 72 songs). There are over 25--I think around 27 new tunes, including a few new covers. 1970 carried a lot of stuff over from 1969. Most of the new material came from the acoustic sets, which were often retreads of Warlocks and other early material. There are 18 songs from the twin L.P's but almost all of Workingman's was introduced in 1969--in fact all of it was--as were five of the acoustic tunes. So that leaves 10 from American Beauty plus around five other acoustic tunes, It's a Man's Man's World, and not much else.


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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Mar 6, 2007 9:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD trivia quiz -- only 3 of the first 20 questions unanswered

Your reasoning is sound, except that 1969 introduced rather more shows than you're assuming--in part (but only in part) because of a few shows with bizarre setlists. In addition to the 1970 fare, don't forget short-lived numbers like Slewfoot or Silver Threads and Golden Needles. Using SetList, I came up with the following list of 49 songs apparently debuted in 1969:

Doin' That Rag, Cosmic Charlie, Dupree's Diamond Blues, Hey Jude, Hard To Handle, Casey Jones, Green Green Grass Of Home, Checkin Up On My Baby, Dire Wolf, The Things I Used To Do, Who's Lovin' You Tonight, Let It Be Me, Silver Threads And Golden Needles, Mama Tried, Cathy's Clown, Slewfoot, Games People Play, The Race Is On, Tiger By The Tail, I've Just Seen A Face, All I Have To Do Is Dream, Wabash Cannonball, Railroading Across The Great Divide, Cold Jordan, High Time, Let Me In, El Paso, Easy Wind, Peggy Sue, That'll Be The Day, Johnny B. Goode, Baby What You Want Me To Do, Wipe Out, Big Railroad Blues, Louie Louie, Twist & Shout, Blue Moon, Seasons, Cumberland Blues, Black Peter, Black Queen, Uncle John's Band, Monkey And The Engineer, Little Sadie, Long Black Limousine, I've Been All Around This World, Mason's Children, New Speedway Boogie, The Master's Bouquet

Roughly 18 of those are one-off performances (I say that without checking carefully), leaving around 31 even if you exclude those. Arguments could be made for excluding one-off performances, but it makes assembling an authoritative list that much more difficult.

1966 is a poser. I suspect that most of the 1966 repertoire was new that year, but you're right that one can never know for any given song.

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Mar 6, 2007 11:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD trivia quiz -- only 3 of the first 20 questions unanswered

In your list are a few songs played earlier (I think) and you have the setlist for the Dead/Airplane jam (9-07-69; Peggy Sue, That'll Be The Day, Johnny B. Goode, Peepin & Hidin, Wipe Out Jam > Big RR Blues, Louie Louie > Twist & Shout > Blue Moon). How strict do we go? Then there are the "Bobby Ace and the Cards Off the Bottom" sets with The New Riders plus Bobby and/or others. "Silver Threads" debuted 5-19-69. "Let Me In" is not listed in Deadbase and was later performed in 1970 by Jerry, Bobby, and guests.


What a mess this makes! Do we then include the Beach Boys' three one offs with the complete band from the Fillmore East
April 27 1971? The whole band is on these tunes.

Even worse: every song was a first timer in 1965!

I suggest we throw the whole thing into the Supreme Court and let them decide. :) After all, they picked our president!

This post was modified by ghostofpig on 2007-03-06 19:47:30